MyDD :: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Daily Kos

[Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Daily Kos

by Why Not, Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:06:17 PM EST

Update [2008-5-6 12:30:1 by Why Not]: the targetted diary has made the rec list, great job MyDD!! And thank you all for your assistance to these people in need.

Well it is with great displeasure that I note that we are ceding the high ground to Daily Kos which so many here find distasteful.

Today there is a recommended diary on Daily Kos on the recommended list about the tragedy in Burma (Myanmar). Initial reports place the death toll at 10,000 and now these numbers are skyrocketing to over 40,000.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5 /6/74151/21123/945/509583

They have kept this important request for aid in their recommended list despite the primary being held today.

One might think people here on MyDD would feel similarly about the human tragedy that is unfolding half a world away. Alas it is not that way; our diary here on the subject has 3 comments and only 8 recommendations (not nearly enough) to stay on the Rec list.

Please click the story below, recommend it and let's keep it there so that people can see the toll and help with donations for these people in need.

Thank You

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/6/11125 7/4094

Tags: Orange Satan, Myanmar, Typhoon (all tags)

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I didn't see the diary (2.00 / 3)

if you edit and stop making this some petty competition with dkos winning the "high ground" , I'll recommend the diary.

For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!

by TeresaInPa on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:11:24 PM EST

Re: I didn't see the diary (2.00 / 3)

I didn't ask for a rec for this diary, I asked for a rec for the diary I linked that was not mine. I did the D Kos thing to get people's attention since sometimes that is what it takes..

by Why Not on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:20:49 PM EST
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Re: I didn't see the diary (2.00 / 2)

I don't think she expressed her intention to rec this (your) diary. I think she said if you'd change this (your) diary to edit out the dKos silliness, she'd go and rec the other diary.

For what it's worth, I think Theresa and I have the same visceral reaction - I got abused and dissed and harassed on dKos and anything to do with dKos turns me off and is most definitely not a motivator for me.

by aggieric on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:25:18 PM EST
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Re: I didn't see the diary (2.00 / 1)

I have changed the title, I hope it suits you enough to recommend the linked diary.

Thanks

by Why Not on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:27:07 PM EST
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Re: I didn't see the diary (1.75 / 4)

Because your petty vindictiveness is more important than people dying in Burma.

by Same As It Ever Was on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:54:40 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.85 / 7)

Put "Obama Sucks" in the title, that'll get it rec'd quick.

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:17:04 PM EST

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.50 / 2)

And with good reason.

Another Hillary Supporter for Obama-Biden '08!

by Beltway Dem on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:19:55 PM EST
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Shouldn't the title be (2.00 / 0)

"let's NOT cede....?

by Mayor McCheese on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:19:44 PM EST

Re: Shouldn't the title be (none / 0)

I have edited the title sorry for the typo.

by Why Not on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:26:21 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

The bridge is burnt. Kos' support of Myanmar mirrors support by those who visit this site and many others. Kos offers nothing to too many Democrats.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:20:31 PM EST

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 12)

This is nothing new. Daily Kos has continued to be a place for positive candidate diaries and diaries about the many other important things going on in the world (like the Myanmar disaster, the environment, the FISA fight, etc.)

I still comment here because I find its more of a sport. Its kind of a thrill to post something and get it troll rated by people who don't agree with you just because they're upset.

But if you want civil discourse, go over there. Obviously, a lot of people here will say the exact opposite, and claim that Daily Kos is some kind of backwards, hate filled world. But that's because when they go over there, their trolling is actually met with resistance, and it pisses them off.

I hope that when this primary season is over, MyDD can revert back into something other that a collection of Clinton talking points. I mean, seriously, at least twice a day something is on the rec list that just quotes a Clinton Memo!

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:23:44 PM EST

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 2)

mojo for expressing the joy of posting here that I have been unable to articulate until now. Thank you.

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:28:23 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 3)

Civil discourse?

That cracks me up. I spent three years on dKos and loved much of it; I tried to stay on for several months, taking refuge in only the non-political diaries and virtual communities, but as it more and more became an Obama-only site, the civil discourse disappeared and it became impossible to remain.

Civil war is more accurate than civil discourse.

by aggieric on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:28:34 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 6)

can you really not handle it? seriously, its a blog, not a war zone. I think you just can't deal with people who don't agree with you.
So what if dailykos is pro-obama, should some people be required to support Hillary just so its more even-handed?

No one's complaining about this site being too pro-Hillary. Its the fact that most of the diaries lack substances and just come directly from Clinton campaign talking points and some of them are just downright racist.

You will not find that on Dailykos. You will find news of his endorsements, new supers he's gotten, pictures from the campaign trail, analysis of his plans, clips of speeches, etc.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:34:21 PM EST
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what utter tripe (none / 0)

lots of crypto-kos-sitters complain about that each and every day. almost every day there is a diary whining about how they are treated unfairly here and asked hard questions and stuff when they re-post RW hate from there. you're whine falls on it's face under the weight of the unsupported assumptions and willful ignorance of your post.

by zerosumgame on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:41:39 PM EST
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Re: what utter tripe (none / 0)

was that a response to my comment? I don't think I complained once about being treated unfairly is. I mean I did just get TR'd again for no reason, but I really couldn't care less.

I sure as hell ain't whining. What would this site be without people like you calling my post ignorant or whatnot? I for one find this all pretty fun.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:52:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (none / 0)

For starters, thanks for the online psycho-analysis - it's helpful to know that I can't handle disagreement.

"You will not find that on Dailykos. You will find news of his endorsements, new supers he's gotten, pictures from the campaign trail, analysis of his plans, clips of speeches, etc.:

O.M.G.

Where did you buy your blinders? I'd like me a pair - it'd make life much less stressful.

I'll be the first to admit that there's a lot of crap on this site, both anti-Obama and anti-Clinton and plenty of scurrilousness, but dKos and myDD are no different in that regard and this pretension that they are is the real story of the "progressive" net roots.

by aggieric on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:52:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

You are the one who said you couldn't deal with that site. And seeing as though theres no possible way other bloggers could be inflicting physical harm on you, I don't see how this is anything other than you not wanting to deal with people who disagree with you.

In regards to the content of Dailykos diaries, I was referring to rec'd diaries. On a site that big, there will be just as much trash and troll diaries as there are here, but while racist shit makes the rec list here, what makes it to the rec list on DailyKos is almost always (with few exceptions) of much higher caliber.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:06:21 PM EST
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There are complaints all the (2.00 / 1)

time about a pro Hillary bent. I was not wanted there - there was a gang of posters who were downright angry and nasty about anything I might post about Hillary -

Your last paragraph is really not true - and there is a definite bias against older people - I had no idea that I and the baby boomers were so disliked by younger people and that we caused so much pain in the world.

But you're right - it's just a blog - I just don't like maurading gangs and Kos encourages it obviously - so fare thee well and if forever fare thee well -

I am disappointed too there are few diaries about anything but the candidate wars though - and I miss some of the wonderful diarists who wrote about the natural world on Kos.

and Catholics/christians - I really don't miss those slings and arrows. and my armour was getting a bit bent -

by Xanthe on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:57:27 PM EST
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Re: There are complaints all the (2.00 / 2)

obviously, there are shitty diaries over at dkos, too. but I was referring to what makes the rec list, which is a much better indication of what the attitude of the site is.

In regard to the bias against older people, I'm not sure exactly to what you are referring to, but I can tell you one possible reason for the bias you are seeing.

A lot of clinton supporters have been downright insulting to young obama supporters, calling us naive and blind for not seeing past the speeches, etc. The whole kool-aid/ cult thing is disgusting, and that's probably where most of that bias comes from.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:02:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You said/I said - who started what - (2.00 / 2)

it's of no matter to me now. I have said repeatedly I will vote for Obama in GE - I am happy to see so many young people getting involved in the election -

by Xanthe on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:08:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: There are complaints all the (none / 0)

Just a question - how long have you been a member of dKos? If you've been there more than six months or so, you've surely seen, to paraphrase you, that:

A lot of obama supporters have been downright insulting to older clinton supporters, calling us stupid and hide-bound for not seeing past the lack to content in obama's speeches, etc. The ageist discrimination and the whole bush/clinton/bush/clinton dynasty thing is disgusting, and that's probably where most of that bias comes from.

by aggieric on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:11:05 PM EST
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Re: There are complaints all the (none / 0)

Ok, what's your point, this happens on both sides, I was just trying to give the motivation for the generational divide on the young voters side. I'm sure older supporters have their reasons to be biased as well.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:15:01 PM EST
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Re: There are complaints all the (2.00 / 1)

Personally, I loved the cooking/recipe diaries, the what are you reading diaries and the gardening diaries.

After reading so much about how the internet was changing the concept of "community" I really thought of dKos as the first genuine online community I'd experienced. Who knew that such standard real-time community practices such as exclusionary zoning and gated communities (If you're not like me, you don't belong here!) could make the transition to online?

by aggieric on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:07:04 PM EST
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I miss garden blogging - (2.00 / 1)

but sorry to hijack diary - it is an important issue - and I am happy to do what I can.

by Xanthe on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:12:37 PM EST
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Re: I miss garden blogging - (2.00 / 2)

Garden blogging, ecodiary rescue and Edscan

Those I miss at Daily Kos, nothing more or less.

Though it was nice having a media connected mike to relentlessly harass Republicans from.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:16:42 PM EST
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I didn't realize (2.00 / 1)

you weren't posting there either.

Though to be honest, after reading some of the comments about Hillary, I am sorry about some of the things I said about bush. Better to work hard to get rid of the admin than to give in to that. I see it now with these posts about Hillary.

Then again....

One good thing: I am doing some volunteer work with Democratic Comm here in my suburb -

by Xanthe on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:09:04 PM EST
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Re: I didn't realize (2.00 / 1)

I was banned for defending the Burma monks last fall actually, with the top recommended diary!

Which makes this double inane for me.

The funniest part about being admin banned, was I still had treasure troves of mojo stockpiled.

While I couldn't diary or comment anymore, I could still change tags. Which I did repeatedly, to Kos's FP stories.

Oh Markos, why do you look for snakes in the grass.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:19:36 PM EST
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Oh God, you're way (none / 0)

more complicated and interesting than me. I just got tired and believe that bad energy can affect me - and I don't need to seek it out.

by Xanthe on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:37:58 PM EST
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I doubt that. (none / 0)

I just sit in the Socialist Peanut Gallery and throw down molotov cocktails.

But I am glad I got kicked out before they started handing out the kool-aide, not the biggest fan of Obama's foreign policy team.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:48:46 PM EST
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See, you won Xanthe. (2.00 / 2)

That's my biggest qualm with Daily Kos and such, is that it has become a World of Warcraft for the Democratic Party junkies.

They play online all day, never going out for real action and pulling up the old sleeves for some hard real world work.

The best thing you ever did was quit playing the video game and entered into the arena of real life.

Kudos to you, you solved the riddle most don't even see being asked.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:36:22 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.66 / 3)

"But if you want civil discourse, go over there."
A front page diarist, Devilstower called Chelsea Clinton "ugly and a bastard". I called him/her on it. That's civil discourse, let alone by a front page diarist. I've stopped visiting that site ever since.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:30:24 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (none / 0)

I think Chelsea is kinda hot and I read Dkos!

I CAN HAZ BAHROCK DONASCHON?

by kasjogren on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:34:55 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

Post that on the Dkos front page!

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:37:39 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

Can you provide a link for that? If you can, I would like to respond to it as well...

If you are having trouble remembering exactly which diary it is in, here is a search thread to help you. If he said that, you are a stand up person for calling him on it. If he didn't, well, let's just assume for the sake of arguement that he did...so if you could let me know which thread, I would appreciate it.

http://www.dailykos.com/search?offset=0& amp;old_count=30&string=Devilstower& amp;type=author&sortby=author&se arch=Search&count=50&wayback=131 040&wayfront=0

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:37:52 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

March 6. He/she linked a clip with McCain. McCain never used the words Devilstower did. Devilstower defended him/herself by say look at the clip. I sill have the emails.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:42:04 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

I didn't read your reply fully. You are correct that McCain did not use those particular words. However, that was what he was driving at and everyone knows. I honestly don't see this as a dig at Chelsea as much as it is a dig at either McCain for insinuating it, or Hillary for getting over it.

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:52:50 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

Is Devilstower a Repub or Dem?

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:04:04 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

Whether he is a dem or rep is irrelevant to this particular conversation. Your post insinuated that he was using these particular words to insult Chelsea and was thus the motive for your decision to leave here. I think it's pretty clear (and everyone has the right to disagree) that he wasn't insulting Chelsea in any way but was rather castigating Hillary for saying anything complimentary about John McCain.

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:08:15 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

OMG! Are you actually trying to defend this behavior by Devilstower and most other diarists on KOS, including Kos himslf? We're done with him. Do you think you have anything to say to convince us that what we've seen, read, responded to, will alter the reality that Kos'site is NOT pro-Dem? He and his site isn't! His site is pro-Kos agenda. Done!

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:13:14 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (none / 0)

There is a reason that Kos is an LLC, and not a Org.

It's for profit. Most people forget this.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:19:35 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

Yup. It all makes sense.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:21:53 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (none / 0)

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a splendid idea, even if I don't like the execution.

It also became a great foil to Townhall and Red State, so I will give it that.

But the intellectual dishonesty, that it's all love and ponies and not about making a buck, is what makes it Naranjastan to me.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:28:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

so let me get this straight, devils tower criticizes mccain for making a statement he believed called chelsea ugly and a bastard. You disagree, and then someone come to the conclusion that he is calling her ugly and a bastard?

That is some interesting logic you used there.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:55:45 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 4)

Um, actually if you read the post, he wasn't calling Chelsea that. It was John McCain that called her that.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3 /6/173850/2679

He seems to be calling John McCain out for that...but view it as you may.

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:50:55 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

Where's the McCain clip? You have the wrong post. Please get your facts straight.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:01:53 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.00 / 1)

BTW, not to bloviate, but perhaps my calling out Devilstower motivated him/her to post the diary you link to.

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:50:50 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

Civil discourse doesn't exist on the blogsphere...it would be nice if it did.

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:47:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well, you had me going along until (2.00 / 1)

you didn't:

But that's because when they go over there, their trolling is actually met with resistance, and it pisses them off.

The majority of Hillary supporters who came here from DKos came here, not because we were "trolling" over there. We came here because roving gangs of trolls at DKos chased us away simply for supporting Hillary.

Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.

by Rumarhazzit on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:52:06 PM EST
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Re: Well, you had me going along until (2.00 / 1)

its a blog. no one can chase you away. you left because you couldn't handle dissension. That's fine, you have that right, but stop pretending that you were done some kind of injustice. I get troll rated for every other comment here because I'm an Obama supporter, and I don't give a shit.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:58:09 PM EST
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I handle dissension just fine (none / 0)

when there'a an inkling of maturity attached to it. Roving packs of juvenile trolls with the sole purpose of hijacking, spamming, and disrupting any and all favorable Hillary diaries or comments is not my idea of dissension. That is why I, and many others left DKos. I take pride in what I write, and I like to think I present myself maturely. I do care when I get TR'd, unlike yourself.

Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.

by Rumarhazzit on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:13:21 PM EST
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Re: I handle dissension just fine (none / 0)

If you take pride in what you write, why do you care what other people comment on your diaries. If you are the one being civil and they are not, it will reflect badly on them. If you were part of the strike, I think that reflected a lot worse on Hillary supporters. Talk about juvenile. It's just a blog, theres always going to be trolls and spammers.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:27:11 PM EST
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And they insist on coming here to do the same (none / 0)

Pretty indicative of their narcissistic, juvenile dispositions

by lombard on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:03:49 PM EST
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Re: And they insist on coming here to do the same (2.00 / 1)

Funny how Hillary supporters love to call people names, but it's the Obama supporters that are juvenile...Kettle, meet thy pot.

Congratulations Steny Hoyer! Our 2008 Chickenshit Leader Of The Year!

by RockvilleLiberal2 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:10:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hey, you admitted it. in another post (none / 0)

At least we don't go over to Kos just to poke the residents with sticks.

by lombard on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:14:00 PM EST
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Re: Hey, you admitted it. in another post (none / 0)

but it's so much fun and so easy.....(before i get tr'd..this is a snark)

"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08

by feliks on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:22:34 PM EST
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the internetz use to, then we lost interest. (none / 0)

We realized Daily Kos was a holding pen, a World of Warcraft for political junkies, so they don't go outside and start real action.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:26:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (none / 0)

as opposed to 10 x a day at DKos posting Obamania memos?

by swissffun on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:14:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

can you link to a recent diary that's made the rec list that has quoted an obama memo. Look at the rec list now, the supporter diaries are well thought out and original. And they arn't by the same two people every day.

democracy!

by BlueGAinDC on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:29:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Jeez (2.00 / 4)

Why not donate to the Mynamar Cyclone victims because it is a worthy thing to do? Why do you have to bring up Daily Kos? What is wrong with you people?

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:25:33 PM EST

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 5)

Which is exactly why I enjoy visiting dkos.

The purpose of the site is not to bash and smear other democratic candidates, like a particular site I know of, but to provide meaningful discussion about many important topics, in and outside of the political realm. Many here, instead of bashing dkos, should allow themselves to be open-minded about the countless daily diaries concerning science, the environment, the Israeli-Palestine issue, etc. But most here find more joy in smearing Barack. To hell with any meaningful issue that would interfere with that!!!

Last nite, they had a drive to feed the weary Barack campaign office staff in NC and IN that was pretty successful I might add. So alot of you can take your "evil sunshine" or orange and put it you know where because they do excellent works over there.

Keep up the good work, kos.

"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale

by april34fff on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:26:38 PM EST

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 1)

Your right, they're work support for the military junta of Burma threw their paymasters at Chevron to kill monks in the forest is truly excellent work.

Keep up the good work, kos, those monks aren't from Tibet after all.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:32:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (1.50 / 2)

Actually, we've put Kos "you know where"!

Purity! Or else!

by ChitownDenny on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:34:44 PM EST
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Re: Lets Ceede the High Gound to Daily Kos (2.00 / 2)

Right -

"Last nite, they had a drive to feed the weary Barack campaign office staff in NC and IN that was pretty successful I might add"

I challenge you - I challenge you - go back to dKos and start a drive to feed the weary Clinton office staff in NC and IN tonight. Then come back to MyDD and report on your success with that.

What about this do you people not understand: many of us in MyDD were involved, active dKos members for years, until we were harassed off of the site simply because we chose to support Clinton over Obama.

You can go to dKos and look up all my diaries and comments - you won't see instances of me attacking or criticizing Obama - but I was harassed off of the site anyway, simply b/c I didn't support Obama.

by aggieric on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:35:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Ag; (2.00 / 1)

I will concede that Dkos is pro-Obama but my point is that their MAIN focus is not on bashing Hillary. They do concern themselves with being pro-active on a host of worthwhile issues,i.e., the Myanmar disaster and the food drive for Obama campaign staff, which is continuing today.

If you are so concerned about the stomachs of Hillary campaign staffers, why don't you start a drive of your own here at mydd? I am a Barack supporter, and I am concerned about HIS staff being well-fed and energized to help HIM get elected.

"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale

by april34fff on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:14:51 PM EST
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Just what I want to read about (none / 0)

Feeding and comforting of Obama supporters and their road stories and photos of the messiah and the disciples. Yuck!

by lombard on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:00:03 PM EST
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Re: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Dail (2.00 / 4)

It's a VERY common occurence on Dkos to have rec'd diaries that have nothing to do with the primary...we have a wide range of political issues:
On the Dkos rec list right now(even though it's primary day):

"Investigate the Pentagon Pundit"(a diary about improprieties at the pentagon

"NO POLITICS, PLEASE, WE'RE DYING"(a diary about Myanmar)

"WWII Vet Commits Suicide outside VA Clinic"(title says it all)

"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08

by feliks on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:39:20 PM EST

Investigate the Pentagon Pundit (none / 0)

Isn't Kerry a Senator sitting on the
Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, with said foreign relations being tainted by government generated propaganda?

I mean, yeah, I'll write and letter and what not, but isn't he actually in a position to do something?

I find his take on the situation comical and laking in leadership.

"I hope the two wings of the Democratic Party may flap together." - William Jennings Bryan

by pinche tejano on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:24:01 PM EST
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Re: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Dail (none / 0)

This is a petty diary. Really is so sad. It's like those taunts at school. 'My mum is better than yours'. Really how sad.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:46:19 PM EST

Re: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Dail (none / 0)

I am sorry you find this diary petty. I only posted it in this fashion because I saw that the diary for aid to Myanmar was sinking.

NO ONE SEEMED TO CARE. The diary was falling off the recent diary list without the recs to make it to the rec list. So I got people's attention with this diary so that we could rescue it to raise the profile of what I consider to be an important issue. Was I wrong for pushing peoples buttons to do the right thing?

I am not taking credit for the diary, I just wanted something this important not to slip through the cracks.

by Why Not on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:54:38 PM EST
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Re: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Dail (none / 0)

The diary was petty. Because you were starting this 'us and them' meme v DKos. So what they put up a diary for the disaster.
You should start a diary without negating their good effort and making this into a Obama v Clinton thing.

It was callous and petty. Shame on you.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Tue May 06, 2008 at 03:19:27 PM EST
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Re: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Dail (none / 0)

You really don't see the point.

first of all it was not an Obama Vs Clinton thing, it was a Dkos vs MyDD thing.

Second, if it were based upon just the merits of the original post this would have been burried.

I used the only surefire way to get it to the rec list, sorry if it offended you.

by Why Not on Tue May 06, 2008 at 03:41:13 PM EST
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22,000 dead and you're worried about Kos? (none / 0)

that is just fucking sick.

oh, well, it is asking for money for storm victims, kudos for that.

the time to rise has been engaged.

by catchaz on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:16:43 PM EST

Re: 22,000 dead and you're worried about Kos? (2.00 / 3)

Ugh.

The diarist isn't really worried about dKos. S/he was just trying to get people's attention so they would go rec the other diary it before it scrolled off the recent diaries list. Putting something about dKos in the title of your diary is a great way to get people to click on it. Ridiculous, I know, but that's the way it is around here.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Tue May 06, 2008 at 02:19:57 PM EST
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Re: [Updated] Lets NOT Cede the High Gound to Dail (2.00 / 1)

I think we all feel for the victims regardless of our political leanings or favored websites.

by sunnyaz08 on Tue May 06, 2008 at 01:39:14 PM EST

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